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This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« on: April 23, 2010, 08:37:06 AM »

The attitude is all too prevalent.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/television/comedy-central-censors-prophet-muhammed-reference-after-threats/story-e6frfmyi-1225857214307

If you want to act like a bunch of stone age savages, can't handle the level of satire others are subjected to which is far less damaging than the treatment your religion metes out to people, want to force people to dress in burqas when your book doesn't say anything more than "dress modestly", want to decapitate people for minor crimes under your Sharia law etc etc then fuck off to stone age savage countries like Afghanistan.

You'll be safe there because, despite the USA's best efforts to implement a strategy to bomb you back to the stone age, it makes fuck all difference to the place because you're already there.

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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2010, 08:53:04 AM »

Or we could let them stay, younger generations see more freedom around them, grow and raise their kiddies with more freedom, and keep the beliefs they like, and throw out the bullshit, and the religion evolves, nothing is going to evolve in a country constantly in war, but hate and fear...
And how is anyone to know what's bullshit and what's not in a country where only one view is permitted.. you don't know how good or bad you have it with nothing to compare to..
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2010, 10:00:03 AM »

Or we could let them stay, younger generations see more freedom around them, grow and raise their kiddies with more freedom, and keep the beliefs they like, and throw out the bullshit, and the religion evolves, nothing is going to evolve in a country constantly in war, but hate and fear...
And how is anyone to know what's bullshit and what's not in a country where only one view is permitted.. you don't know how good or bad you have it with nothing to compare to..

Free study tours in gap year for kids wanting to go to see what Islam is like.

Ticket to Afghanistan on the condition they live like locals.

As for the ones growing up here getting more freedom that's not the case.  Exactly as emigrants everywhere the Muslim community believes nothing has changed "back home" and thus the "colonies" must abide by the old rules.  Look at Greeks and Italians, the strongest "cling" to their traditional way of life is in Australia and the USA, Greeks in Greece and Italians in Italy often laugh at the expats as being hopelessly behind the times because the "home country" has moved on.

As an example I was once engaged to a good Italian girl (I say good in the same sense as cars, awesome pieces of engineering, great bodywork, when they work properly they are fucking awesome but they're incredibly temperamental).  When we stayed with her parents we had to sleep in separate rooms because that's the tradition.  One Xmas her relo's from back home came over and laughed themsleves hoarse, their kids partners slept with them openly, they had "children out of wedlock" etc just the same as Anglo Saxons.

Islam is a blight on the world.  It's pretty well known I'm an agnostic, I neither know nor care about whether god exists or not.  I'm happy for people to be Jewish, Christian (pretty much all denominations), Hindus, Buddhists etc.  Shit, I'll even giggle at Hillsong and the lovers of Xenu.

But I draw my own personal line at Islam, there's just too much fucked behaviour and oppression of the non ruling "caste" in that system, there's too much fundamental radicalism, there's too much internal and external violence.

So as is always the way there needs to be an end put to this.  People will yell about the hypocrisy of advocating violence is necessary to stop violence but the difference is clear:

If violence is used in the short term to overthrow the violent oppressors of the masses then that violence should not only be condoned, it should not only be accepted, it should be actively encouraged because once the oppressors ar etaken out then the masses can be allowed to live in democratic peacefulness.

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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2010, 10:27:11 AM »

But aren't you oppressing peoples beliefs yourself? By saying ban something that you disagree with?

I have a few Muslim friends, and it's not a blanket rule that they're all violent and misogynistic.

And I made a joke about this South Park thing yesterday, but everyone ignored it...
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2010, 10:38:16 AM »

But aren't you oppressing peoples beliefs yourself? By saying ban something that you disagree with?

I have a few Muslim friends, and it's not a blanket rule that they're all violent and misogynistic.

And I made a joke about this South Park thing yesterday, but everyone ignored it...

Sort of.

I'm happy for them to fuck off and be fuckheads in their own fuck fuck fucked up land provided they get the fuck away from us and don't cause us any grief.

They on the other hand have a significant element agitating for Sharia law etc in countries they have recently emigrated to.

Step 1: BAN THE BURQA.

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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2010, 10:43:17 AM »

Fuck?  :-P

Hmmm, I do agree with Monsieur Sarkozy and his banning of the burqa.
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2010, 10:51:38 AM »

I do too.
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2010, 11:03:27 AM »

I don't think it should be outright banned but it should be made law that it is illegal for a woman to be forced to wear one (I know this won't make much of a difference but it is an important philosophical distinction to make as a liberal democracy) then ban it from anywhere you can't wear a motorbike helmet or balaclava.
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2010, 11:06:15 AM »

They're only proposing a ban on wearing them in public areas like shops, streets etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63L33R20100422
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2010, 11:14:25 AM »

They're only proposing a ban on wearing them in public areas like shops, streets etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE63L33R20100422

Don't care.

Ban them EVERYWHERE.

And headscarves unless the wind is over 30kh/h.

And bike helmets etc unless one is actually on or within 2 metres of their bike.

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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2010, 11:16:18 AM »

I'd like to see a reduced level of this symbolism stuff, that really just says 'hey, I'm different to you'. Why Christians just tend to stick with crosses, the Islamic religions seem to have all kinds of in-your-face symbols.

That said, the majority of Muslim people do not dress any differently to anyone else. In fact, they too are disturbed by these radicals. So definitely I would agree that any kind of radical of fundamentalist religion needs to be either closely regulated or made illegal, but banning an entire religion because of the behaviour of a few radicals is way too extreme.
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2010, 11:19:29 AM »

Great. I opened this topic and was reading just as a Muslim chick sat next to me...
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2010, 11:21:34 AM »

Great. I opened this topic and was reading just as a Muslim chick sat next to me...

See, there's the problem.

If you feel uncomfortable reading an entirely legit discussion because of her obvious Muslim prsence then that situation should not be allowed to exist.

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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2010, 11:21:54 AM »

That said, the majority of Muslim people do not dress any differently to anyone else. In fact, they too are disturbed by these radicals. So definitely I would agree that any kind of radical of fundamentalist religion needs to be either closely regulated or made illegal, but banning an entire religion because of the behaviour of a few radicals is way too extreme.

Exactly, that's why I was pointing out my friends who are Muslim, but you wouldn't know. There's extremists in any religion, I think the media is partially to blame, if they didn't report it...how would we know?
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Re: This is why Islam should be banned from Australia
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2010, 11:22:46 AM »

Don't care.

Ban them EVERYWHERE.

And headscarves unless the wind is over 30kh/h.

And bike helmets etc unless one is actually on or within 2 metres of their bike.

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So the police have to carry around wind gauges?
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