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Author Topic: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.  (Read 1344 times)

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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2010, 01:10:57 PM »

Yeh. Just ban all forms of contraception. Abbott knows he wants to. :-D
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2010, 01:17:15 PM »

Why? It's for the benefit of the country.

It's been proven that countries with a younger population produce a better society (sweden/finland type countries) that are more productive and have better resources and such. Our population is currently stagnating and we need more young people. I think the way they're going about encouraging that is wrong though.


That's wrong on several counts. Finland and Sweeden are no better than us in terms of a younger population.

Secondly countrys with a high birthrate are usually economically down the toilet. See birthrates in Africa and South America.

Thirdly, Australia's population is not stagnating, we are now in the biggest baby boom since THE Baby Boom.

Fourthly you aren't creating meaningful population growth by paying dole bludgers 5 grand to breed.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2010, 01:39:08 PM »

I thought they were replacing the baby bonus with the maternity leave thing.

Actually I just googled. It doesn't say for sure what is happening, but maybe they WILL replace baby bonus with the leave. Baby Bonus is currently at $5100, and 18 weeks on the federal min wage ($14.50*38.00 hours*18weeks) gives $9900 roughly. But then you tax that i assume which then minus about $2900 gives $7000. So I think you get extra under the proposed plan for leave with labor. Last I heard they were debating whether to replace or make it an option to chose between bonus and leave.

I say stuff it and get rid of everything for new parents. Like anyone uses or needs the baby bonus. It's like no-one actually needed the $900 kev handed out....
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2010, 02:01:42 PM »



And regarding the domestic issues. Again, if you have a 1 million dollar house then im sure you can afford a cleaner....those who dont then the obvious thing is to split the workload so you do half each. Dont just say men wont do it, when im sure if you asked and explained the reason for it then they would go for it....

Wrong.  You are wrong, wrong, wrong!  You can sit down with them and talk about it and they will agree - and then they simply won't do it.

And "explain the reason for it?"  Useless.  If they don't already know the reason, telling them won't make a lick of difference.

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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2010, 02:02:29 PM »

I say stuff it and get rid of everything for new parents. Like anyone uses or needs the baby bonus.

They usually use it on a new TV.

Or weed.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2010, 02:04:00 PM »

Wrong.  You are wrong, wrong, wrong!  You can sit down with them and talk about it and they will agree - and then they simply won't do it.

And "explain the reason for it?"  Useless.  If they don't already know the reason, telling them won't make a lick of difference.



That could possibly be because you're hanging around the wrong type of man.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2010, 02:04:17 PM »

Wrong.  You are wrong, wrong, wrong!  You can sit down with them and talk about it and they will agree - and then they simply won't do it.

Correct.

First intelligent thing you've ever said. Amazing how you can be right when you talk from experience instead of just spinning bullshit all over the place. :)
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2010, 04:59:55 PM »

Why? It's for the benefit of the country.

It's been proven that countries with a younger population produce a better society (sweden/finland type countries) that are more productive and have better resources and such. Our population is currently stagnating and we need more young people. I think the way they're going about encouraging that is wrong though.

Yeah but people who choose not to have kids will spit chips, sneer and spout bullshit about bogan "breeders". If there's one thing worse than mothers who constantly bang on about their kids like they're fucking superhuman, it's people who don't want to have kids constantly reminding us of how elite they are by not "spawning" like the "breeders".


I don't mind paying for maternity leave personally, but I can see why people don't like it. Just a shame most of those people will also probably bang about not having kids :lol:
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2010, 05:38:37 PM »

And regarding the domestic issues. Again, if you have a 1 million dollar house then im sure you can afford a cleaner....those who dont then the obvious thing is to split the workload so you do half each. Dont just say men wont do it, when im sure if you asked and explained the reason for it then they would go for it....
Oh my god, Jo. I adore your fairytales.

Mez is so bloody right.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2010, 10:05:19 PM »

Experience FTW.   8-)

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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2010, 10:36:03 PM »

If you don't want to do all the house work, just don't do all the bloody housework... Housework has never been an issue with me and mr frazz... very few people actually like to live in filth, if you have always done all the housework, why would anyone else bother, perhaps you shouldn't have babied them for all those years.

And don't talk about it a length, it is a boring topic, it makes people not want to do anything because you are being so fucking annoying about it, mr frazzs mum does this, maybe it's an old woman thing, 'can you please do the dishes' is enough, no one cares why, or what a hard life it is, or all the boring cleaning crap you've done,...

mr frazzs mum complains that we don't 'care' about housework, because we just say 'ok' mid sentence when she goes on her cleaning rants,.. of course we don't fucking care, it's housework no one sane CARES abut housework, it's just something that has to be done, so you do it, and don't waste anymore energy on talking about it or complaining and ranting, and yes I'm aware of the stupidity of decrying ranting about cleaning in a rant about ranting about cleaning, but fuck you, at least I don't do this every god damn day, seriously, don't you have anything more interesting to do with your time, get a fucking hobby.

Possibly also an old woman thing, think before you accuse people of never lifting a finger, it's fucking shitting to be accused of never doing anything when the dishes aren't done one day, when you've done them every other day that week... half the time you're ranting about dusty light fittings or the beer being on the wrong shelf or some other ridiculous problem, you're probably actually angry about some other issue that you're burying away because it's too hard, and it's so much easier to complain about cliché housewife bullshit..

Also, if you are working less hours, you do more housework, housework is not like a Job, an Job has pressure and is all about pleasing some cunt you don't like, housework is just about not living in filth, you can listen to music, take a break whenever, have a nice snack, do it in your fucking underwear if you want, and if you really don't feel like doing anything, it's no big deal...

Honestly you lot sound like a crappy American sitcom sometimes.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2010, 10:47:22 PM »

But Frazzy, you obviously don't live in a house that's covered in cats' piss. I would argue that this is not a simple rant about housework.
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2010, 10:51:40 PM »

So get rid of the cats.

You don't take care of your pet and clean up after it, you shouldn't have a pet.
With fair warning of course, tell them, "Either you clean after your creatures, or you find a new place to keep them, or I find a new place/hole in the ground to keep them"

Same goes for small children, and teenagers if you failed to house-train them...
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2010, 11:07:06 PM »

Honestly you lot sound like a crappy American sitcom sometimes.

*cheers*
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Re: Maternity Leave aka The Government/s are MORONS.
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2010, 11:10:29 PM »

I go a more general Cheer with that rant.
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