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Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: December 22, 2009, 09:19:06 PM

[Wolfe Tone]

But if there's no threat to humans, why will people give a crap?

[Thaluikhain]

I don't believe it exists.

If humans aren't changing the climate, how do you account for the rise in temperatures and melting of the icecaps?

Secondly, given that we know that humans have massively increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, and that increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere leads to the planet becoming warmer, if humans aren't changing the climate, what is stopping this from occuring?

[grooviechickie]

GC, capitalism is a/the/a broad range of economic system/s.  Democracy is a/the/a broad range of political system/s.  They are not mutually exclusive.

Secondly, there is a big difference between a democratic system being seriously flawed, and all but non-existent.

Firstly, the US says they are democratic yet they behave like capitalists. Just admit it already. If you really want to be a democracy, then stop being so scared of the word 'socialism' because it's not communism, you stupid fuckwits. The second the S word is mentioned, the Yanks go feral.

Secondly, yes there is.

[Emperor Fadeaway]

Of course it exists. Haven't you heard of the ice age?

[Emperor Fadeaway]

LOL @ Wolfie. Hook, line and sinker eh mate! HAHA.

[Thaluikhain]

Firstly, the US says they are democratic yet they behave like capitalists. Just admit it already. If you really want to be a democracy, then stop being so scared of the word 'socialism' because it's not communism, you stupid fuckwits. The second the S word is mentioned, the Yanks go feral.

*headdesk*

Ok, GC, either explain to us what you mean when you use words like "democracy" and "capitalism", or better yet, use the actual meanings of the words that everyone else uses.

[SG]

If humans aren't changing the climate, how do you account for the rise in temperatures and melting of the icecaps?

GOOD POINT!

HOW STUPID WE ARE NOT TO REALISE THE SOUNDNESS OF YOUR LOGIC!!

Now, can you explain how the really really early humans made so much CO2 the last Ice Age ended with, um, temperatures rising and icecaps melting...

Secondly, given that we know that humans have massively increased the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, and that increasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere leads to the planet becoming warmer, if humans aren't changing the climate, what is stopping this from occuring?

CHK CHK BOOM

And then the dumb fuck climate change alarmist said to the even dumber fuckier climate change alarmist "Chicken Little the sky is falling, the ice caps are melting and woe is us we need Noah's Ark..."

Seriously people, get a grip.

Man made climate change is complete bullshit.

Equally we SHOULD be aiming to reduce pollution concentrations bcause there IS a clear causal link to illness.

SG

[SG]

Firstly, the US says they are democratic yet they behave like capitalists. Just admit it already. If you really want to be a democracy, then stop being so scared of the word 'socialism' because it's not communism, you stupid fuckwits. The second the S word is mentioned, the Yanks go feral.

Capitalism where one earns what one is worth to th efree market is a very pure from of democracy.

Socialism invovles far more government control and is therefore less democratic.

SG

[Thaluikhain]

HOW STUPID WE ARE NOT TO REALISE THE SOUNDNESS OF YOUR LOGIC!!

I take it you don't feel like actually answering the questions then?

[SG]

I take it you don't feel like actually answering the questions then?

I thought the sarcasm dripped enough to say "you have just asked such a stupid question that I'm not going to bother with an answer".

Clearly not so I shall be more direct.

You have just asked such a stupid question that I'm not going to bother with an answer.

Listen up muppet: The temperature of the Earth has varied repeatedly over time.  It's a cycle.  Just because the human mind automatically looks for patterns and twists what it sees to fit teh assumptions made doesn't mean the pattern actually exists.

Man's component of global warming (remember how it used to be called the greenhouse effect?) is 2/3 of fuck all which is roughly equivalent to man's historical contribution to the end of the last Ice Age.

As for the greenhouse effect when science categorically disproved the bullshit theory the Green alarmists were trying to perpetrate the Greens looked to the successful model of Scientology and turned teh "Greenhouse effect' into something more undefined so it couldnt be challenged because it didn't exist in the first place.

SG

[Emperor Fadeaway]

For the first time in your life SG, you've said something i agree 100% with.

[Pertinax]

The IPCC (yes, I know) has stated that atmospheric CO2 maintains one sixth of the energy delivered by the sun to the earth.  Subsequently, more CO2 means more energy capture. The difficult part of the equation is that the earth's atmosphere has had up to 1440 ppm of CO2 and it didn't become an arid wasteland. Atmospheric CO2 is currently 387 on its way 450.
If the planet has been 10 degrees warmer and seas have been 8m higher predating industrialisation, why can't this round of global warming be a natural event?
If the polar ice caps are melting and becoming warmer does this mean the tropical zone and the sub-tropical zone will expand to cover more of the world, and if it does, won't that mean more of the planet becomes arable, not less?
I don't get it?
Can someone with half an idea (i.e. not a frothing, end of the world greenie) explain any of that to me?
I think the US economy ought to be the priority for the record.

[Emperor Fadeaway]

Can someone with half an idea (i.e. not a frothing, end of the world greenie) explain any of that to me?

4 words. The Church of Climatology.