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Climate Change

0 (0%)

The Middle East / Israel

0 (0%)

Iranian Nuclear Proliferation

0 (0%)

Afghanistan

0 (0%)

US - Russian relations

0 (0%)

US - China relations

1 (10%)

The US Economy

3 (30%)

Other

3 (30%)

Fadey is a fuckwit (for old times sake)

3 (30%)

Total Members Voted: 10

Voting closed: December 22, 2009, 09:19:06 PM

[Pertinax]

President Obama won the nobel prize for peace but he is fighting two wars simultaneously. He has made plenty of noise about his priorities but is confronted by a bewildering range of domestic and foreign policy issues all competing for his attention.

The poor bloke has a pretty tight schedule. In the interests of helping him prioritise, please feel free to vote in the poll.

When we're done, I'll forward the result to his website.

[Bookworm.]

I'd quite like to think that Fadey's fuckwittery is the biggest threat to the US

[SG]

World domination.

Seriously.

Make democracy the world model and nuke anyone who disagrees.

Solve Afghanistan by gassing teh fukers in the mountains.  They can hide and escape from other forces but enough gas to sterilise the area of everything down to cockraoches will do nicely.

Give Syria, North Korea and anyone else similar 24 hours to decalre open elections supervised by the UN.

If they don't comply the send in a Tomahawk.

If they still don't comply use up plenty of obsolete ammo.

If they still don't cmply go in hard.

Fuck 'em.

We have the best form of government in the history of the planet.  Force it on them and educate the fuckers to stand up for themselves.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.  The price of world freedom is US and Western allies intervention.

SG

[Thaluikhain]

There's one or two serious problems with that idea.  Not withstanding the moral issues and massive collateral damage, you'd need the country to be 100 percent behind you, and Obama's popularity rating isn't ever likely to get that high.

In addition to that, the retaliation would be rather impressive.  America's national security gets shown up as it is, a real crusade would gather more enemies than it could defend from.  And what are you going to do about places that aren't third world backwaters that aren't keen on western democracy?

America has a long history of attempting to impose democracy on various parts of the world, and it tends to fail spectacularly.

(Not to mention that many in the West aren't really that keen on genocide, and you have to listen to them in a democracy)

I'd say the economy.  Most of the rest of those concerns could be safely but on the back burner, at least for the duration of his presidency.

[Invisible Friend.]

Other. Because I know shit all but have a thing where I need to vote in every poll.

[grooviechickie]

Other - because if they bloody well took care of their own, instead of pouring money into fighting the rest of the world, they'd be in better shape to deal with the big stuff. Health care, education, employment, eliminating the mulit-trillionaires that give themselves massive bonuses with public money ffs.

SG, there is barely a shred of democracy left in the US. They, and the rest of the Western World who seem to follow in the US's footsteps, are capitalists.

[SG]

There's one or two serious problems with that idea.  Not withstanding the moral issues and massive collateral damage, you'd need the country to be 100 percent behind you, and Obama's popularity rating isn't ever likely to get that high.

Give em a war that's won quickly and he'll soar.

Heck, why not just wipe out everyone in Afghanistan, I mean it's not like they're attractive or anything so there's no real loss there...

SG

[Pertinax]

SG,

Why do you remind me of that General in Dr. Strangelove?

[SG]

SG,

Why do you remind me of that General in Dr. Strangelove?

Because you know I'm right but you just can't resile what needs to be done with some faux Catholic sense of morality.

Ultimately the world requires action to get things done.

Problem is, most people are too weak to take action.

SG

[Emperor Fadeaway]

Aw. No results.

I voted for myself - So I can become famous in Obamaland.

[Thaluikhain]

Give em a war that's won quickly and he'll soar.

Heck, why not just wipe out everyone in Afghanistan, I mean it's not like they're attractive or anything so there's no real loss there...

Unfortunately, too many people don't approve of genocide for it to be possible under a democracy.

As for quickly won wars...the US doesn't seem to understand the concept (I am talking of the politicos, though, the military plan for the Iraq war was very different and might have worked, if they were allowed to run with it).


GC, capitalism is a/the/a broad range of economic system/s.  Democracy is a/the/a broad range of political system/s.  They are not mutually exclusive.

Secondly, there is a big difference between a democratic system being seriously flawed, and all but non-existent.

[Wolfe Tone]

Oh, yeah, I was going to respond to GC but couldn't be fucked.

[Circus Animal]

As for quickly won wars...the US doesn't seem to understand the concept

I'm not sure that the Japs would agree with you...

[Wolfe Tone]

I'm not sure that the Japs would agree with you...

That was in the good old days before Mutually Assured Destruction.

[Thaluikhain]

I'm not sure that the Japs would agree with you...

A) That was 2-3 generations ago.  Things over half a century ago tend to be different from how they currently are.

B) It took the Allies some 4 years to bring about a Japanese surrender.  That doesn't seem exactly like a quick victory.