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Health System
« on: September 08, 2009, 11:45:14 AM »
I don't know if we have one of these threads already, if so, feel free to merge.

I just came across this article:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/859185/six-coffees-a-day-recommended-to-tired-doctors

and I'm fucking disgraced that the main issue with this is just outrage over the fact that they've been told to drink coffee to keep awake.

Can no one see the detrimental effects of having your first port of call in a case of a medical emergency being a doctor that has been awake for up to 80 hours? No one is expected to make rational, reasonable thoughts under such circumstances, yet they are. And then people wonder why mistakes are made.


Interesting story time. In NSW an intern was driving home from a 2 day shift (or there abouts). They fell asleep at the wheel, crashed and died. All the interns went on strike to demand better conditions. Conditions were met (a maximum working time enforced, a place in the hospital to sleep when working overtime etc) and it has helped issues somewhat, from what I know.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2009, 11:54:37 AM »
I've always said that sleeping and driving just don't mix.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2009, 03:04:15 PM »
Obviously whoever recommended 6 coffee's a day has never googled "caffeine induced psychosis" & started reading

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Re: Health System
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2009, 04:59:32 PM »
I got overdosed by 10 * too much by an overtired doctor when I was 14..
Thankfully it wasn't a more serious drug, and after the first 2 doses wiped me out mum looked up the correct dosage for a kiddie...
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Re: Health System
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2009, 05:56:13 PM »
Quote from: Queen Bookivieve Von Wormingtion XVII on September 08, 2009, 11:45:14 AM
Can no one see the detrimental effects of having your first port of call in a case of a medical emergency being a doctor that has been awake for up to 80 hours?

No.  Please explain it to me.  Also explain why the health system being over-stretched is a new problem, and why such issues haven't been around for decades.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2009, 06:07:48 PM »
I never claimed it was was a new issue. Just that it is an issue that needs to be addressed.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2009, 06:13:15 PM »
Why does it need to be addressed?

Sickness and death are an innate part of the human condition. Are we actually wrong to have doctors and hospitals at all? Are we wrong in trying to fight nature? Doesn't it cause more problems? So many questions...so little time.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2009, 06:15:28 PM »
Fadie, that sort of shit stirring only works in person, when it comes via the internets it really loses its funny.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2009, 06:17:20 PM »
Fortunately for us, those questions are not relevant to the topic at hand.

I'm talking about health care workers and the need for better conditions. Obviously it does need to be addressed when people's lives are in danger.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2009, 06:17:40 PM »
Not stirring. Legitimate questions.

Cases in point - more virulent virii & bacteria, golden staff...you know where I'm coming from Thal.

And I am right, yet again.
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Re: Health System
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2009, 06:19:40 PM »
Quote from: Queen Bookivieve Von Wormingtion XVII on September 08, 2009, 06:17:20 PM
Fortunately for us, those questions are not relevant to the topic at hand.

I'm talking about health care workers and the need for better conditions. Obviously it does need to be addressed when people's lives are in danger.

It's definitely relevant if one is able to argue that such individuals should not actually exist in the first place. :)
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Re: Health System
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2009, 06:21:28 PM »
Oh, so it wasn't hippy "back to nature" bullshit, it was more along the lines of conspiracy theory bullshit?  My mistake. 

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Re: Health System
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2009, 06:22:25 PM »
surely the fact that we do it makes it natural...
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Re: Health System
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2009, 06:22:33 PM »
Quote from: fadeaway on September 08, 2009, 06:17:40 PM
And I am right, yet again.

You are right in nothing, because you have made no point, or argument.

You're just throwing questions in that can't be answered to prove your point and opinion that you are right.

If I recall correctly, that would make you a hypocrite :)
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Re: Health System
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2009, 06:26:22 PM »
Quote from: Queen Bookivieve Von Wormingtion XVII on September 08, 2009, 06:22:33 PM
You are right in nothing, because you have made no point, or argument.

You're just throwing questions in that can't be answered to prove your point and opinion that you are right.

If I recall correctly, that would make you a hypocrite :)

:D :D :D

Nicely said.

However, that's not exactly what I'm doing. Merely raising the proposition that messing as much with Nature as we do may not entirely be the best way for humans to act.

We take it as read that doctors only do good. I believe this idea needs challenging.
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