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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 08:12:42 PM »
Quote from: Wolfe Tone on June 01, 2009, 07:39:20 PM
And others posting largly irrelevant links that trivialise the Tienaman square masacare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

Kent State?  C'mon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12th_Street_riot
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2009, 08:15:40 PM »
Yeah but that wasn't a student protest
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 08:19:55 PM »
Well, it was the military response I meant.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 08:21:23 PM »
fair enough
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 10:34:37 PM »
Quote from: SG on June 01, 2009, 02:54:12 PM
I had a pager. 

Some Mez like hippy therefore assumed I was part of ASIO keeping watch over them all.

SG

You wouldn't have seen ME at a demo.

I was too busy bonging on at home.   8-)
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2009, 11:11:14 PM »
Quote from: libraryspinster on June 01, 2009, 03:15:06 PM
The video footage of the "tank man" or 'unknown rebel' is fairly etched into my memory as a defining historical snapshot from my youth, that and teh fall of the berlin wall, mostly because they were used a lot in the standard television adNational Nine News with brian henderson or maybe for sixty minutes? It probably was replayed in terms of news coverage in a similar way to the WTC towers collapsing.   I remembered feeling completely horrified and in awe and very confused by the concept of protest and military attacking their own citizens. (i was nine years old at the time of the protest and killings so i didn't grasp the reality of it all.

SG Army Reserve = Mirthitude
As we have a 10 day or so age difference, I'm had similar exposure.  In 2005 I went to the site, and it was surreal.  Although it is a main thouroghfare in the middle of an enormous city, it only means one thing to us.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2009, 11:17:39 PM »
It's odd, hey: I would love to say I would be courageous enough to stand up to a government committing atrocities-- but, never having been made to make that kind of choice, I'm just not sure. I suppose it would all depend on how you feel about your country; when I was in Korea I noticed that the students there have a whole different level of national pride about them-- it's forced on them, i know, but nonetheless-- and here, it's totally different. The difference being we're given the choice, and most of us choose to regard our country as pretty much what it is: the island that we walk on, but not something over which we hold ownership. Is changing nationalism good or bad??? I can't tell...
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2009, 11:41:39 PM »
It depends what you do with your national pride, I guess.

The only time you see people wearing Australian flags or otherwise taking pride in their Australianess is generally when picking on people for lookng foreign.  Not when taking part in free and fair elections or anything else that differentiates us from places we're much better off then.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2009, 11:58:09 PM »
Exactly? Is the phrase I'm looking for 'democratically spoiled" I wonder??
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2009, 12:00:52 AM »
I like it though, better that than rampant, all consuming nationalism.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2009, 05:42:31 PM »
exactly!! I mean, when it's uniformal nationalism- the integrity's not there, because the choice isn't there.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2009, 01:12:50 PM »
The concept of choice is a nonsense.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it sweetheart. Bet you've never heard that one before.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2009, 02:32:18 PM »
Don't worry hon, he's going to be saved on judgement day :roll:
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2009, 02:49:40 PM »
Believing in God and believing in judgement day are two entirely different things.
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Re: Tiananmen Square
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2009, 02:54:26 PM »
So what's his/her/it's point then?


What's his/her/it's use?
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