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Republican Party.

Democratic Party.

Ralph Nader.

Boston Tea Party.

Other Party.

No one, it's America I don't have to vote I'd rather go party.

[Thaluikhain]

I know what you mean about the race thing, but at the same time, it is kind of a big deal. It's a huge step for the Western world, one that illustrates the changed ideas of today's population. It's cause for celebration, knowing that our world has changed so much from a hundred - or even fifty - years ago.

So would be voting for McCain, first female VP, and old President yet. 

[Mr. Blonde]

Being the first female VP kind of loses it's edge when you're a complete retard.
And being old isn't exactly something worth celebrating. Rather the opposite.

[Lord Biscuit©]

I know what you mean about the race thing, but at the same time, it is kind of a big deal. It's a huge step for the Western world, one that illustrates the changed ideas of today's population. It's cause for celebration, knowing that our world has changed so much from a hundred - or even fifty - years ago.
People obviously know the content of his character - they've made him president based on what they've seen of this. It's the fact that we're seeing this change for equality in society embodied by this man that makes people want to talk about his race.

I don't know if you realise this, but there are plenty of black and coloured presidents, female prime ministers etc around the world. In the western world, black people make up only a small percentage of the populations (except perhaps Sth Africa, which has a black president anyway). The USA has a black population of 12.8 percent, so the chances of a black person becoming president are only 12.8 percent to start with. Then assuming you get most of that vote (because, as we all know, the black folk will vote purely on skin colour) factor in that you will need to get  40%  of the rest of the population to vote for you, it's still an uphill task.

[Mez]

And being old isn't exactly something worth celebrating. Rather the opposite.

*pulls out the party hats and streamers for the celebration of age, wisdom, and me being the forum matriarch*

Age has its compensations.  They are just not visible to you young silly folk. 

[Mr. Blonde]

I don't know if you realise this, but there are plenty of black and coloured presidents, female prime ministers etc around the world. In the western world, black people make up only a small percentage of the populations (except perhaps Sth Africa, which has a black president anyway). The USA has a black population of 12.8 percent, so the chances of a black person becoming president are only 12.8 percent to start with. Then assuming you get most of that vote (because, as we all know, the black folk will vote purely on skin colour) factor in that you will need to get  40%  of the rest of the population to vote for you, it's still an uphill task.

I do indeed realise that there have been and are coloured presidents around the world, but the western world has traditionally been inherently racist. None of the major western world countries have ever had a black president, so this is kind of a big deal.

The chances of a black president are 12.8 percent to start with? I think that's a little narrow-minded. There are several other variables that would come into it, like the amount of black people who actually vote, and other outlandish factors of that nature.
And if black people have a 12.8 percent chance, then white people have an 87.2 percent chance of becoming president to start with? Obviously the amount of the population in your favour in terms of skin colour has no bearing on the final result. Things just aren't that black and white anymore.

*pulls out the party hats and streamers for the celebration of age, wisdom, and me being the forum matriarch*

Age has its compensations.  They are just not visible to you young silly folk. 

I knew you'd have something to say about that. 

*escorts Mez back to comfy chair facing the window, agreeing with her comments about the pretty birds*

[Mez]

*puts feet up on ottoman and watches birds while muttering about the good old days*

*pats Blonde's hand*

You're a good girl, being kind.

[Lord Biscuit©]

Ah, you didn't tell me you were on drugs. I should try to explain more slowly.

Try this: there are 100 apples in a box, 13 are red, the rest are green. Without looking, you put your hand in the box and pick out an apple. What are the chances of the apple you picked being red? I fear once again, I have made to logical for you to follow, so let me help out. The chance of you picking a red apple out of the box are significantly less - especially if you don't look at the colour of the skin. Is this to complicated?

Curiously, you seem to think that people who aren't black, must be white. Why would you think that? Also, if you want to see in-your-face racism, go to Asia, Africa. Did you know that in Singapore, the most western of Asian nations, your rate of pay (as decreed by govt policy) can be based upon whether you are Indian, Filipino, Indonesian etc? (Hint: you don't want to be Indian).

Take a look at the stats on how skin colour affected the vote on the US election:
Black: 96% voted Obama
Hispanic: 94.5% voted Obama
White & Other: 43% voted Obama

Now, which races do you suppose might be voting by the skin colour of the candidate?

[SG]

That thing about English you were muttering about Biccie...

Ah, you didn't tell me you were on drugs. I should try to explain more slowly.

I would suggest "shall" would be more appropriate than should in this context.

I fear once again, I have made to logical for you to follow, so let me help out.

You're waiting on my English to get up to speed Biccie?

The chance of you picking a red apple out of the box are significantly less - especially if you don't look at the colour of the skin.

Couple of points in this sentence:

1.  chance singular follow by plural form "are" is hardly good English
2.  Given your talking probability the phrase "especially if you don't look at the colour of the skin" would tend to mean that, unless Blonde is a total retard or has some form of muscular disorder, she can logically pick whichever skin colour she chooses if she can see the apples in question.  Hardly to (sic) logical there

Is this to complicated?

Depends, where is complicated?

Or are you meaning "too" complicated?


Over to you

SG

[Lord Biscuit©]

Well done SG! 

[Mr. Blonde]

SG made all the points I was going to make, although I was going to be slightly less critical of your English skills (or lack thereof).
And his name's now Mr Guy...I feel as though I've been cloned.

Take a look at the stats on how skin colour affected the vote on the US election:
Black: 96% voted Obama
Hispanic: 94.5% voted Obama
White & Other: 43% voted Obama

How can you say that the sole reason those people voted the way they did was because of skin colour?
Perhaps black people didn't vote for Obama solely based on the fact that he's black - perhaps they just don't buy into media bullshit about Obama being a muslim, or a terrorist. Perhaps they are able to make clearer decisions as to who is most qualified to run the country without fearing a black man becoming president.

[Thaluikhain]

96% of black people are immune to the propaganda that fools 57% of whites/others?

[Mr. Blonde]

It's America. What percentage of the population are white supremacists / religious nutters?

[Wolfe Tone]

Where'd you pull the Hispanic thing from?

Clearly Hispanics would vote for Obama not because he is black but because he is a democrat. Democrats (as a rule) tend to be less harsh on immigration policy than republicans so when their third cousin wants to bring his family to the land of opportunity he will be able to.

Because Obama had shit loads of money, he was able to get enough of them down to the voting booth and what do you know?

The Republicans could have gone harder on Barrak's spending, initially signing up to the $83, 000, 000 as John McCain was on and then changing his mind, but I 'spose in the next election they will have learned from their mistakes and will be ensuring that they have extravagant amounts of money at their disposal, and they didn't want the Demos to point out their hypocrisy.

[Thaluikhain]

Take a look at the stats on how skin colour affected the vote on the US election:
Black: 96% voted Obama
Hispanic: 94.5% voted Obama
White & Other: 43% voted Obama

Where is that from?

[Mr. Blonde]

Biscuit's magical land of "facts".