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Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« on: June 15, 2008, 12:02:28 PM »

Happened a while ago now but they've finally been punished. Any sort of animal cruelty like this makes my bloody boil. I know it pales in comparison to the horrors of the Iraq war but that doesn't make it any less disgusting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdyN2_GJmP8&feature=related


Marine sacked for YouTube puppy horror

June 12, 2008 12:43pm
Article from: NEWS.com.au


A US Marine has been kicked out of the corps and another has been punished after a video surfaced of Marines throwing a puppy off a cliff in Iraq.

The video, which was posted on YouTube, showed two Marines joking and holding up a puppy before it was hurled into a gully.

Marine Corps Base Hawaii said today that Lance Corporal David Motari received unspecified "non-judicial punishment" and "is being processed for separation" from the Marine Corps, the Associated Press reported.

The second Marine, Sergeant Crismarvin Banez Encarnacion received unspecified "non-judicial" punishment.

 
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2008, 11:47:32 PM »

NEDM?

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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 12:43:16 AM »

That being said...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHpu_U7Ot8A&NR=1


 :lol: It's a "conspiracy" now.

Though one really has to wonder WHY they'd do it? Surely they'd realise that if they were, you know, going to put it on youtube, people might see it? Might be pissed off? Migh fire them??
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2008, 03:14:08 AM »

oh yeah, because American soldiers usually show much better judgement......
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2008, 03:17:27 AM »

Yeah, well you can usually expect that people's judgement is in their own self interest.

That just makes no sense.
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2008, 03:31:05 AM »

Such as, being photographed giving a double thumbs up next to an abused prisoner?

Or, for that matter, joining the military to end up in 3rd world hell holes being shot at?
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2008, 08:44:47 PM »

Can I play devil's advocate and ask why we'd care if a Marine tossed a dog off a cliff?

Is it because we're appalled that he'd kill a defenseless creature? Isn't that what he was sent there to do?

Shock, horror!, A US Marine on active service in Iraq actually killed an innocent creature. What about all the innocent and defenseless people the Marines have killed?

Where's the hue and cry over the deaths of human beings?  Kill a dog and you're a psycho, drop a bomb on a civilian population and you've made a regrettable miscalculation that resulted in collateral damage.

I say any loss of innocent life is a tragedy. But get a grip people it's only a dog.
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 08:50:03 PM »

Puppies are cuter than Iraqis.
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2008, 08:58:42 PM »

I think the problem is that the soldiers throwing the puppy over the cliff is in a way indicative of the personality of the American soldiers, if they treat animals with contempt, than what would they do to human beings? Also, their sheer stupidity in putting the footage on Youtube is extremely worrying. These are the people who are holding massive guns and using army tanks.
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2008, 09:08:25 PM »

I think the problem is that the soldiers throwing the puppy over the cliff is in a way indicative of the personality of the American soldiers, if they treat animals with contempt, than what would they do to human beings?

Um, that's kind of what we train them to do...

Also, their sheer stupidity in putting the footage on Youtube is extremely worrying. These are the people who are holding massive guns and using army tanks.

Marines in tanks and carrying guns?

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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2008, 09:10:19 PM »

Or, if you wanted to be pedantic, isn't the US marines a seperate group to the US army, so they'd not be using army tanks?
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2008, 09:12:17 PM »

Um, that's kind of what we train them to do...
Ever heard of 'peacekeeping'? I'll give you a hint, it has nothing to do with killing people
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2008, 09:12:36 PM »

Or, if you wanted to be pedantic, isn't the US marines a seperate group to the US army, so they'd not be using army tanks?

M1A1 Abrams, same as most of the rest

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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2008, 09:14:19 PM »

Or, if you wanted to be pedantic, isn't the US marines a seperate group to the US army, so they'd not be using army tanks?
Who wants to be pedantic?
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Re: Marines Punished Over 'Puppy Torture' Video
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2008, 09:20:11 PM »

M1A1 Abrams, same as most of the rest

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Well, yes, but I meant if the marines were using it, wouldn't it be likely to be a US marine tank, not a US army one?  In the same way you get navy helicopters...the deisng isn't exclusively used by them, but the navy happens to own those particular ones.
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