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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #60 on: May 04, 2008, 06:18:10 PM »

The key question to which I want to know the answer: Will abolishing post counts actually alter people's posting behaviour significantly enough to stop the spamming? I suspect not.

Well, it would stop a fair few..

Those being the ".... must..... get...... to....... 100000000.... by.... tonight...... almost..... there...... +1...... nearly.... +2...... 100000000!"
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #61 on: May 04, 2008, 06:19:18 PM »

Yes, but that stuff was relatively amusing compared to what goes on in suopc now.

I mean, "hai guys, what did you do today?" isn't boring to you?

How do you judge it?
Who judges it?
While even I find some things in that thread boring, I find some things in other threads boring too.
So if we took out everything that someone thought was boring we would have no forum at all.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #62 on: May 04, 2008, 06:21:03 PM »

It's also good to draw attention to things that might be happening that don't have a home anywhere else. It's socialising. For certain members of the forum, anyway.

I don't mind a bit...

But I get annoyed when things get swamped by nom nom noms and sneezes etc. and it's impossible to find anything in there.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #63 on: May 04, 2008, 06:22:50 PM »

Since everyone's got different opinions, here's an idea. How about if someone can make options what to show in addition to the ones we already have for example, this is an extremely rough draft:

Displaying Options

[checkbox] Show post levels
[checkbox] Show status
[checkbox] Show amount of time logged in
[checkbox] Show avatar
[checkbox] Show date registered

etc.

Would people would stop caring about their post count when they're past 10,000?
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #64 on: May 04, 2008, 06:23:54 PM »

Since everyone's got different opinions, here's an idea. How about if someone can make options what to show in addition to the ones we already have for example, this is an extremely rough draft:

Displaying Options

[checkbox] Show post levels
[checkbox] Show status
[checkbox] Show amount of time logged in
[checkbox] Show avatar
[checkbox] Show date registered

That is actually a good idea.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2008, 06:24:33 PM »

I don't mind a bit...

But I get annoyed when things get swamped by nom nom noms and sneezes etc. and it's impossible to find anything in there.
Oh, I agree with the extent to which it's happening, sometimes I get home after 6 hours at uni and the thread has moved 10 pages. It's ridiculous. But I'm not against people using it to have a quick chat. It's endless pictures of celebrities (which fuck up my download limit big time) and *coughs* *puts on new gumboots* that is stretching the point a bit far. Sure, I'm not blameless in that, but I do make a point of limiting it to one at a time (and then, only sometimes).

Since everyone's got different opinions, here's an idea. How about if someone can make options what to show in addition to the ones we already have for example, this is an extremely rough draft:

Displaying Options

[checkbox] Show post levels
[checkbox] Show status
[checkbox] Show amount of time logged in
[checkbox] Show avatar
[checkbox] Show date registered

etc.

Would people would stop caring about their post count when they're past 10,000?
Beeef, I'm not even sure that the forum software can do all of those things. We need to wait for Eru or Nick or someone who knows more about this than the rest of us before we can tell you what the viable options even are.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #66 on: May 04, 2008, 06:26:28 PM »

The key question to which I want to know the answer: Will abolishing post counts actually alter people's posting behaviour significantly enough to stop the spamming? I suspect not.
I have no idea. For me personally, it would stop me spamming with quotes or whatever when I'm closing in on a number... then again, I recently decided that now I'm over 7.5K I don't really care. I was originally trying to make sure Mez and I outdid Vis and Kelch as a jokey-muck around thing but decided that it was better to let them go for it and stop the spamming.

I know I'm older, but sometimes I can be quite immature and stupid (yes, it's true!). I noticed how bloody much spam posts annoyed me, and realised I was probably annoying other people by my spamming.

Anyway, it used to be a sign of respect. People who had posted a fair amount had been around a while and had interesting and right-wing/ranty/left-wing things to say and argue about.

I'm sorry if I'm harping on about the "good old days" (some things weren't necessarily so rosy at times). Things change and life moves on. Maybe it's better to accept that.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #67 on: May 04, 2008, 06:35:34 PM »

Anyway, it used to be a sign of respect. People who had posted a fair amount had been around a while and had interesting and right-wing/ranty/left-wing things to say and argue about.

I'm sorry if I'm harping on about the "good old days" (some things weren't necessarily so rosy at times). Things change and life moves on. Maybe it's better to accept that.
Sure, I realise that people round here used to have good discussions, and I think we still do, albeit fewer. There are still some good arguing threads happening. When I joined it was towards the election, and there were heaps of political dicussions that I launched into with gusto. I think I've noticed the change even in the 7 months or so that I've been here. Of course, the more spammers we have, the more "serious" members will be disinclined to hang around, so it's a downwards spiral.

I just think there's more to it than post count. We have younger, "blander" (in the absence of a better term making itself available to me) members and therefore the discussions and types of posts have changed (suffered, even). Post count might cause a few problems, but there are more issues than just that.

Maybe we can have a concerted effort by all members to minimise the pointless posts? By all means still go ahead and have a chat in SUOPC or tell us what's great or shit or the two together, but less of the picture/action spamming (unless highly satirical and amusing; that's ALWAYS welcome and is supposed to be why we're here, no?). Keep pretty people to 'The Beautiful People'; keep TV show discussions to their own threads and so on.

We can't make people cooperate, but I think this thread shows that the issue has come to a head and people need to keep their posting urges under a little more control.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #68 on: May 04, 2008, 06:44:54 PM »

I just think there's more to it than post count. We have younger, "blander" (in the absence of a better term making itself available to me) members and therefore the discussions and types of posts have changed (suffered, even). Post count might cause a few problems, but there are more issues than just that.

It's just the type of debates that are around. I try to avoid ethical debates at all costs and for while I did the religious thing, but when it's like conversing with a brickwall... I really don't care enough to continue. Other topics I don't know enough to contribute.

Maybe we can have a concerted effort by all members to minimise the pointless posts? By all means still go ahead and have a chat in SUOPC or tell us what's great or shit or the two together, but less of the picture/action spamming (unless highly satirical and amusing; that's ALWAYS welcome and is supposed to be why we're here, no?). Keep pretty people to 'The Beautiful People'; keep TV show discussions to their own threads and so on.

:D

Would be a good start.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #69 on: May 04, 2008, 06:46:19 PM »

I don't see a problem with random banter that doesn't fit anywhere else. But some people seem to use this as (a) a receptacle for their own private thoughts and other flotsam bouncing around their brains and seem to think the rest of us would benefit from something like *puts on band aid* or (b) a communication vehicle such as MSN or the telephone. 

And yeah, we're all guilty of dribbling crap from time to time, and fair enough, this is supposed to be "downtime". But some people seem to have a monopoly on the market, to the point where it's degrading the feel of the forum.

For those of you seeking to fill gaping holes in your psyche/social life by pedalling hard towards massive post counts or forum social interaction, may I suggest that you take a bit of time *off* the forum and do some soul searching for a while?
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #70 on: May 04, 2008, 06:48:49 PM »

It's just the type of debates that are around. I try to avoid ethical debates at all costs and for while I did the religious thing, but when it's like conversing with a brickwall... I really don't care enough to continue. Other topics I don't know enough to contribute.

:D

Would be a good start.
Well I'm always a believer in self-empowerment and diplomacy and cooperation and compromise and all that bullshit, it's worth a try! :roll:

Sure, not all debates are to everyone's tastes, but we do have a good range of discussions and everyone's free to start their own. At least you think about them, some of the worst culprits don't even know that other boards exist apart from Everything Else and FFFP.

I don't see a problem with random banter that doesn't fit anywhere else. But some people seem to use this as (a) a receptacle for their own private thoughts and other flotsam bouncing around their brains and seem to think the rest of us would benefit from something like *puts on band aid* or (b) a communication vehicle such as MSN or the telephone. 

And yeah, we're all guilty of dribbling crap from time to time, and fair enough, this is supposed to be "downtime". But some people seem to have a monopoly on the market, to the point where it's degrading the feel of the forum.

For those of you seeking to fill gaping holes in your psyche/social life by pedalling hard towards massive post counts or forum social interaction, may I suggest that you take a bit of time *off* the forum and do some soul searching for a while?
Yak, you speak perfect sense. I agree entirely, for what my opinion is worth.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2008, 06:56:05 PM »

I do not understand why people think wanting a high post count means people are trying to fill gaping holes in their lives.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #72 on: May 04, 2008, 07:01:07 PM »

I do not understand why people think wanting a high post count means people are trying to fill gaping holes in their lives.
It's not automatically. It's just that people who spend 8 hours a day online, posting everything that comes into their head, must have a lot less to do in their real lives than most. Most of us can hardly fit in all the things we need to do in a day, let alone spending all day searching google images to find pictures to up their post count on here.

Yak didn't say that everyone who has a high post count has a social problem:

For those of you seeking to fill gaping holes in your psyche/social life by pedalling hard towards massive post counts or forum social interaction, may I suggest that you take a bit of time *off* the forum and do some soul searching for a while?
i.e. not everyone.

(and if Yak was referring to you, you've got to admit that you do post rather a lot...  :|)
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #73 on: May 04, 2008, 07:04:38 PM »

Well yes that's what I mean, I assumed she was talking about me, and just because I spend a lot of tiem on here doesn't mean I don't have a life.
I bet I have more of a life then half the people on here.

And any gaping holes I have I deserve to have and I'm pretty sure this forum isn't going to fix for me anyways.
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Re: Should we abolish post counts?
« Reply #74 on: May 04, 2008, 07:12:07 PM »

Everybody here is guilty of posting inane shit at one time or another.
But please don't get rid of post counts.  Its the best tool there is to help identify fuckwits.

Here are some dead giveaways so that you can play 'Spot the fuckwit' at home;

  • Excitement about the colour of user names
  • Posting random combinations of letters
  • Congratulating other forumsters on postcount 'milestones'
  • 3 consecutive posts describing something mundane like how they eat toast or pick at a scab

If they manage to get to 10,000 without posting anything intelligent, then they acheive 'fuckwit with no life' status.
And they get a cake.

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