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JOEBIALEK

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Abortion
« on: January 27, 2008, 05:50:53 AM »

On this 35th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, I would like to share my views on the issue of abortion.
 
Life begins at the point of conception.  No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue.  What astounds me is that those who favor abortion went through an identical development stage as the being they are condemning to death.  Would these very same people agree that a similiar choice should have been made about their own existence?  Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions.  They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created.  What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions in this country?  Is it too much to ask a woman who has conceived to place the child into adoption?  Nine months of discomfort is nothing compared to life in prison for voluntary manslaughter!  Does the father of the child have a say in this?  And what about the constitution of the United States?  Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?  I believe abortion is a crime against humanity and should be outlawed.   We need to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision and get back to cherishing life in this country.  For a country that murders it's children cannot be far from self destruction.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2008, 06:08:57 AM »

No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue. 

Apart from everyone.  It may, it may not.

As an aside, ectopic pregnancies come to mind.

Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions.  They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created. 

But would you support abortion for other reasons, even if this was to be banned?

Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? 

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

You have to love that the people who wrote that were slave owners.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2008, 08:55:32 AM »

So the writers strike is over then?
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2008, 01:27:33 PM »

You do know that there is another abortion thread already? But that is ok, I will fell free to point out your stupidity in here
On this 35th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision, I would like to share my views on the issue of abortion.
 
Life begins at the point of conception. 
Well, you could say that life begins before conception, if you like. See, the eggs and sperm are living cells, so does that mean when I ovulate I am commiting manslaughter? After all, they could have turned out to be wonderful generous humans too.

No one can deny that after a human being is conceived it will develop into the very same being as those debating this issue.  What astounds me is that those who favor abortion went through an identical development stage as the being they are condemning to death.  Would these very same people agree that a similiar choice should have been made about their own existence? [/quote]
Well, had I been aborted, I assure I wouldn't be thinking about this at all.

 
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Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions.  They prefer their own pleasurable self-indulgence over the care and sanctity of the life they created.  What ever happened to taking responsibility for one's actions in this country?
You are an american, right? When has your country taken responsibility for it's actions? And I like to think, that in this day and age, a woman should be able to choose when and if she will have a baby. You may see it as being self-centred, but are you sure that you want a person who was going to abort to have the baby? I'm not sure what type of mother they would be, but I think it would be better for humanity if certain people decided not to reproduce.
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Is it too much to ask a woman who has conceived to place the child into adoption?  Nine months of discomfort is nothing compared to life in prison for voluntary manslaughter!
You see nine months of discomfort, I see nine months of discomfort, 18 hours of immense pain and the rest of a life continuosly wondering and worrying. But hey, pot-a-toe, pot-aaa-toe

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Does the father of the child have a say in this? 
Does he want a say in it? If the woman was in a stable relationship with a committed partner, I'm sure that could only work against abortion.

And what about the constitution of the United States?  Are not all people conceived in this country deserving of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?[/quote]
What Thal said.
According to that, though, every criminal should be released from jail because they were just living their life, pursuing what they perceived happiness as.

 
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I believe abortion is a crime against humanity and should be outlawed.   We need to overturn the Roe v. Wade decision and get back to cherishing life in this country.  For a country that murders it's children cannot be far from self destruction.

An foetus is not a child. It is a bunch of cells.

And what do you think of a woman that has to abort for medical reasons?



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Re: Abortion
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2008, 02:54:18 PM »

And what if I am inseminated by the ever pervasive influence of Toshiba corp?  The foetus would become an effeminate chicken person....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2008, 06:54:11 PM »

Toshiba have money and mind control powers.  They won't be interested in you.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 12:25:35 AM »

What is the rate of conception to actual pregnancy? 85%? What is this "life in prison for voluntary manslaughter"? Sounds like some 2nd world country with too much money and not enough sense! You're not one of those gay yanks are you Joe?
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 02:20:00 AM »

And what if I am inseminated by the ever pervasive influence of Toshiba corp?  The foetus would become an effeminate chicken person....

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 08:21:21 PM »

What is the rate of conception to actual pregnancy? 85%?

Much less, I thought.

And then there's ectopic pregnancies, as mentioned.  Where the baby grows in a fallopian tube, and the mother dies a slow agonising death.

Unless the baby is removed.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2008, 08:25:54 PM »

Well, I think you're just a fuckwit, Joe.  I mean that in the nicest possible way.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 11:29:00 AM »

Well, I think you're just a fuckwit, Joe.  I mean that in the nicest possible way.

Why don't you counter his argument instead of just abusing him
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 11:44:27 AM »

What astounds me is that those who favor abortion went through an identical development stage as the being they are condemning to death.  Would these very same people agree that a similiar choice should have been made about their own existence?


No because their parents wanted them and life begins not at conception but when the Mother decides to keep it.

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Abortion today is used primarily as a birth control of convenience because people are too self-centered to take precautions.

I'm not too sure about the birth control bit however I just read this statistic the other day- per 100 live births that take place, 25 are aborted. I find that incredible. Do pro choicers think that all of these were for perfectly valid reasons??

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 11:54:28 AM »

You do know that there is another abortion thread already? But that is ok, I will fell free to point out your stupidity in hereWell, you could say that life begins before conception, if you like. See, the eggs and sperm are living cells, so does that mean when I ovulate I am commiting manslaughter? After all, they could have turned out to be wonderful generous humans too.

You're talking about potential life but not actual life. Sperm cells and egg cells by themselves are not developing into anything.


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You may see it as being self-centred, but are you sure that you want a person who was going to abort to have the baby? I'm not sure what type of mother they would be, but I think it would be better for humanity if certain people decided not to reproduce.You see nine months of discomfort, I see nine months of discomfort, 18 hours of immense pain and the rest of a life continuosly wondering and worrying. But hey, pot-a-toe, pot-aaa-toe


Have you ever heard a Mother say that she regretted having her child? I havn't
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 12:11:52 PM »

Why don't you counter his argument instead of just abusing him
What kind of idiot would argue with a fuckwit??...oh, wait...you?
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 12:19:17 PM »

What kind of idiot would argue with a fuckwit??...oh, wait...you?

If I wanted to stop arguing with fuckwits I would have left this forum a long time ago
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