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GM crops and our food supply
« on: May 29, 2007, 03:09:28 PM »

Fuckity fuck fuck.

This is awful!

"OPPOSED to GM products? Well, you might be already eating them — some have been on the shelves, in various guises, since 2000."

http://www.smh.com.au/news/diet/you-may-already-be-eating-them/2007/05/26/1180205122430.html
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2007, 03:31:24 PM »

Don't worry about the GM packaged products.

First let's start with our own vegetables that you buy from Coles and Woolworths the fresh (as long as you call 6 months fresh) people.

I had briefly banged on about this somewhere before. Go into any supermarket and you will find that the quality of the fresh fruit and vegetables is fit only for pig farms.  Although they don't do meat too bad as they do source out the best suppliers to a degree, their fruit and veg is crap. I picked up some dutch carrots the other day and no shit, you could bend them around until the top touched the bottom. The poor Indian dude had a puzzled look on his face when I quizzed him about it as I don't think he knew any different.

And I guess this is where the problem lays. We are innocently ignorant, especially in the metro areas due to not being able to see what a fresh fruit or vegetable should actually look and taste like.

My suggestion is that at your earliest opportunity, head to the country to get some real fruit and vegetables at the local market - you will notice the difference.

I knew a farmer who sold his best lettuce to top class restaurants in melbourne. After seeing some of his frost bitten lettuce, I asked him if he had enough rabbits to feed the damaged lettuce. "No need" he said "I get good price from McDonalds for frost bitten lettuce"
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2007, 03:55:15 PM »

GM food doesn't really frighten me - the environmental benefits of improved crop production outweigh the potential risk to me. I see it as a risk/reward scenario with a big upside.

To put it another way, you'll know you are in trouble if your turds have arms...
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2007, 04:10:11 PM »



To put it another way, you'll know you are in trouble if your turds have arms...

I see a benefit here. At least you don't have to wipe your arse. Get the turd to do it for you.  :-)
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2007, 05:51:59 PM »

What's the GM stand for?
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 05:58:16 PM »

Let's make this multiple choice:

1. From Gambia. gc is opposed to all Gambian products
2. Game Master. gc is opposed to all Dungeons and Dragons related products
3. Grand Master. gc is opposed to all chess related products
4. Genetically Modified :)
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 06:02:02 PM »

it's so 2.



thank you Mr Satis.
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2007, 06:06:52 PM »

Happy to help  :lol: :lol:

I knew gc had it in for us nerds.
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2007, 10:20:14 PM »

I totally agree. There is no way I would ever eat food made by General Motors!
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2007, 10:24:06 PM »

bugger me dead.

you hippies should love the GM, it means a reduction in all those awful nitrogen based fertilisers we slosh all over our crops.

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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2007, 10:49:38 PM »

gc, I hope you're not telling use you just found out this? There have been plenty of reports and even tv documentaries about it for years now. What exactly are you worried about? If your rice suddenly contains more vitamin A, do you expect some side-effect?

Currently vA (golden) rice it is helping to reduce about a million child deaths a year due to A deficiencies, and 300,000 cases of blindness due to the same. GM has saved many a poor African. But why would it be good enough for poor people, and not everybody? It's just food.
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 09:13:46 AM »

Happy to help  :lol: :lol:

I knew gc had it in for us nerds.
How did you guess?  :-P

you hippies should love the GM, it means a reduction in all those awful nitrogen based fertilisers we slosh all over our crops.
I don't want nitrogen-based fertilisers, crop spraying, etc either.  8-)

We only have excess amounts of those fertilisers thanks to the intense factory farming of animals anyway.

gc, I hope you're not telling use you just found out this? There have been plenty of reports and even tv documentaries about it for years now. What exactly are you worried about? If your rice suddenly contains more vitamin A, do you expect some side-effect?

Currently vA (golden) rice it is helping to reduce about a million child deaths a year due to A deficiencies, and 300,000 cases of blindness due to the same. GM has saved many a poor African. But why would it be good enough for poor people, and not everybody? It's just food.

I knew about it but was hopeful that it was not in Australia's food chain yet. I know we have GM crops for cotton and soy... Not Happy Jan. It's also the labelling issue that shits me. Why can't they be honest and tell us, ffs?

Once upon a time they told us DDT, asbestos, tobacco, and thalidomide was good for us, remember...  :roll:
« Last Edit: May 30, 2007, 09:15:54 AM by grooviechickie »
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 08:29:29 PM »

How did you guess?  :-P
I don't want nitrogen-based fertilisers, crop spraying, etc either.  8-)

We only have excess amounts of those fertilisers thanks to the intense factory farming of animals anyway.

*sigh*

no, we have excess amounts of those fertilisers because all living things need nitrogen to survive. it makes up the good part of our DNA and proteins (remember that nitrogen groups are called 'amine' groups in chemistry and proteins are made up of polymers of amino acids) - and really we are all water and protein in the end.
we need to receive it from plants, and plants need to receive it from the soil.

plants can't use atmospheric oxygen, because it is unreactive, and the only living things that produce oxygen are bacteria (eg; rhizobium) in symbiosis with other organisms. these don't produce enough of it to sustain the amount of food we need to grow for the human population currently on earth.

either you go GM, you use nitrogen fertilisers, or you go hungry.

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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 11:19:34 PM »

Once upon a time they told us DDT, asbestos, tobacco, and thalidomide was good for us, remember...  :roll:
OK, so you think GM is a chemical of some sort?

ps: It isn't.
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Re: GM crops and our food supply
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2007, 08:53:55 AM »

OK, so you think GM is a chemical of some sort?

ps: It isn't.
Good god, do you really think I am that dumb? I'm just saying that scientists before have said things are safe.
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