chaserforum.net

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

All content is the responsibility of individual users. If concerned by any message, report it. Abuse not tolerated and will lead to banning. By using this site you agree to its rules.

Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 20

Author Topic: Creationists vs Darwinians  (Read 23054 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

DiddlySquat

  • Stalker
  • ******
  • Posts: 3280
  • I am self-monitoring myself
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2007, 01:55:25 PM »

Why aren't women allowed to go to stonings, Mum?
Logged
My fallibility is proof of my brilliance - DS

Fritz

  • Really not getting the hint
  • ********
  • Posts: 6951
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2007, 03:06:44 PM »

Everyone knows that girls cannot throw.
Logged
"A memory is anything that happens and does not completely unhappen" - Edward de Bono.

"Edward de Bono did more drugs than Elvis" - Fritz

grooviechickie

  • Resident Slut
  • Having a difficult time with reality
  • ****
  • Posts: 14584
  • I want to be his fingers...
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2007, 03:10:56 PM »

You utter bitches.

 :lol:
Logged
"I love you, and because I love you, I would sooner have you hate me for telling you the truth than adore me for telling you lies." Pietro Aretino

Darq Gus

  • Groupie
  • **
  • Posts: 152
  • The Pope's understudy
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2007, 03:45:51 PM »

I don't care what no one tells me. Noah fitted all the animals, including them dinosaurs, on to a boat 300 cubits long.

A cubit is the length of your forearm for those who remain ignorant of the Lord's intended yardstick.

I expect the ark was compartmentalised, much like Titanic but without its inherent susceptibility to sinking; God being an accomplished architect as you can witness if you take a drive down the Great Ocean Road and observe the majesty of the remaining apostles.

I noticed how all those attacking The Truth that is Creationism are almost entirely scientists and people with degrees. Thus I rightly must conclude that the entire education system is flawed, or in league with the wily forces of darkness, and must be put back two thousand years in line with conventional thinking, praise the Lrod.

Logged
Power forwards tend to be proficient stickhandlers and skaters who shoot the puck well and, at the same time, are capable of delivering crushing body checks and may also fight occasionally.

Fritz

  • Really not getting the hint
  • ********
  • Posts: 6951
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2007, 03:53:27 PM »

 :lol: :lol:  Love your work Gus
Logged
"A memory is anything that happens and does not completely unhappen" - Edward de Bono.

"Edward de Bono did more drugs than Elvis" - Fritz

Darq Gus

  • Groupie
  • **
  • Posts: 152
  • The Pope's understudy
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2007, 04:23:01 PM »

Quote from: Genesis_19:5
"And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him,

And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly.

Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof."


Through Lot's pious offering of his own virginal daughters* to cure the unnatural lusts of the Sodomites it is indisputable that though the science of the Bible may be called into questioned by snakes and doubters, its value as a moral guide may not.




* possibly pre-teen given the marriageable age of the time

[also read Genesis 19:30-38]

« Last Edit: May 29, 2007, 04:29:17 PM by Darq Gus »
Logged
Power forwards tend to be proficient stickhandlers and skaters who shoot the puck well and, at the same time, are capable of delivering crushing body checks and may also fight occasionally.

Nick 2

  • Having a difficult time with reality
  • ****
  • Posts: 12340
  • Waiting for Ragnarok
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2007, 05:23:55 PM »

I posted this once before, it was so classic I'm reposting it



I wonder how it would work if brought before a judge.


CITATION: DAWKINS & 2 Ors v GOD & 3 Ors [2007] NSWSC 666

HEARING DATE(S) : 06/06/07
 
JUDGMENT DATE :  06 June 2007
 
JURISDICTION : Equity Division

JUDGMENT OF : Justice J 
 
DECISION : Originating process dismissed. Plaintiffs to pay defendant's costs.
 
CATCHWORDS : INTERLOCUTORY INJUNCTIONS - burden of proof - whether onus lies on plaintiffs
 
PARTIES:
Dr. Richard Dawkins - First Plaintiff
Some Scientists - Second Plaintiff
Hardcore Atheists - Third Plaintiff
God - First Defendant
Allah - Second Defendant
Buddah - Third Defendant
Zeus - Fourth Defendant 
 
FILE NUMBER(S) : SC 3566/06
 
SOLICITORS :  Solicitors-R-Us - Plaintiffs
Nick Enterprises - Defendants


1. This is an application for an interlocutory injuction brought by the plaintiffs against the defendants, seeking, inter alia,

- a declaration that the defendants do not exist, or, should that not succeed,
- orders that the defendants cease existing.

2. It is unnecessary at this point to consider the long and bitter history between the plaintiffs and the defendants.  Needless to say, there have been numerous differences of opinion between the plaintiffs and the defendants, inter alia on the question of the existance of the defendants.

3. In deciding whether to grant an interlocutory injunction, the court must be satisfied that there is a serious case to be tried. In Castlemaine Tooheys Ltd v South Australia (1986) 161 CLR 148, Mason ACJ stated:

"In order to secure such an injunction the plaintiff must show (1) that there is a serious question to be tried or that the plaintiff has made out a prima facie case, in the sense that if the evidence remains as it is there is a probability that at the trial of the action the plaintiff will be held entitled to relief; (2) that he will suffer irreparable injury for which damages will not be an adequate compensation unless an injunction is granted; and (3) that the balance of convenience favours the granting of an injunction."

4. The onus is on the plaintiff to demonstrate that there is a serious case to be tried. In these present proceedings, the plaintiffs must prove to the court that there is at least a question as to the existance or non existance of the defendants.

5. Unfortunately neither the plaintiff's nor the defendant's counsel were particularly helpful. Counsel for the plaintiffs refused to adduce any evidence that might show that the defendants do not exist. In turn, Mr Nick 2 for the defendants, after submitting that the burden of proof was on the plaintiffs, proceeded to amuse the court by performing a 'mock judgement' rendition of where the burden of proof would lie should this case ever be taken to court.

6. I rule that Mr Nick 2's judgement writing style looks nothing like mine.

7. Unfortunately the defendants were not able to attend the trial. Plaintiff's counsel submitted that the non attendance of the defendants should be taken as evidence that the defendants do not exist. Unfortunately, this is not sufficient evidence to draw such a conclusion. Perhaps the defendants had better things to do than come to court to establish that they exist.

8. Counsel for the defendants produced two sworn affidavats on behalf of the first and second defendants. Whilst they were sworn almost two thousand years ago, once again counsel for the plaintiffs objected to the admission of the affidavits into evidence, but offered no reason or explanation to the objection.

9. I find that the plaintiffs have utterly failed to demonstrate that there is a serious question as to whether the defendants exist. Therefore there is no need to address the questions of remedy and balance of convenience.

10. This application is dismissed. The plaintiffs will pay the defendants' costs of these interlocutory proceedings.

11. I also rule that Nick 2 is the bomb.
Logged

kathryn

  • Groupie
  • **
  • Posts: 108
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2007, 08:10:00 PM »

Yeah Dawkins is exceptionally angry and his behavior and views verging on those of a zealot but i think is because of the people he constantly faces up against.
Fronting up against people who refuse to listen to his resoning must get a little frustrating.

Denton was tamer in his interviewing style but it gave a real insight into how some of the American evangelical think and apply their beliefs to their life.

I've had to learn Intelligent Design and Creationism at school. It was so stupid. Our teacher just taught it more as a joke than real science.
Evolution is the way to go people.


Logged
"Communism - It's a party!" - SHHS 07

DiddlySquat

  • Stalker
  • ******
  • Posts: 3280
  • I am self-monitoring myself
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2007, 08:35:42 PM »

Evolution is the way to go people.

And very soon you'll have a bunch of horny Chaserites trying "to evolve" with you :-D
Logged
My fallibility is proof of my brilliance - DS

Keridwen

  • Really not getting the hint
  • ********
  • Posts: 4159
    • House's House of Whining
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2007, 01:58:14 AM »

What should schoolchildren be taught about the origins of life, especially considering the whole Creationism debate in the US?

Perhaps instead of being "taught" as such, it should just be as shared cultural knowledge - ie let the kiddies know that no one definitively knows the origins of life - only that some (most) believe they do. Tell them the arguments for the creationists, tell them the arguments and show them the evidence from the evolutionists.

Kids need direction to think for themselves.

I don't believe in this "scripture" business - I attended one when I was 6 and decided it was bullshit and I wasn't going back. However it was decidedly hard to keep out of scripture - we had to jump through so many hoops and write so many letters! Just because we live in a "Christian" society, it does not mean we need to bombard kids with this sort of thing at such a young and impressionable age.

In regards to values, children can certainly be taught good values without the aid of a religion - which in fact teaches children a most arrogant form of narcicissm! Religion is like the framework -- the easy way to go about it. Be nice to your classmates or you'll burn in hell. And I know its not as fire and brimstone as it used to be, but the premise is still there, and its still a bad way to go about it.
Logged

Fritz

  • Really not getting the hint
  • ********
  • Posts: 6951
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2007, 09:11:07 AM »



I don't believe in this "scripture" business - I attended one when I was 6 and decided it was bullshit and I wasn't going back.



Of course at the tender age of 6 you have taken in so much of life you can actually determine what is bullshit and what is not.   :lol: :lol:
Logged
"A memory is anything that happens and does not completely unhappen" - Edward de Bono.

"Edward de Bono did more drugs than Elvis" - Fritz

DiddlySquat

  • Stalker
  • ******
  • Posts: 3280
  • I am self-monitoring myself
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2007, 02:54:58 PM »

Of course at the tender age of 6 you have taken in so much of life you can actually determine what is bullshit and what is not.   :lol: :lol:

I'm not sure about 6, but I came to the same decision when I was about 9.

Little minds see a lot more than we give them credit for. I think that they are particularly good at spotting hypocrisy, which is the staple diet of some religions.
Logged
My fallibility is proof of my brilliance - DS

unomomento

  • Tragic
  • ****
  • Posts: 710
  • Radio is silent, yet it fills the air with noises.
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2007, 03:35:57 PM »

Creationists are fucking retarded. All of them. Retarded. Anyone who believes that shit needs a bullet.

The End.
Logged
'The Man of Truth has learned that Illusion is the One Reality, and that Substance is the Great Imposter.'

'The most merciful thing in the world... is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents.' - H.P.Lovecraft

Fritz

  • Really not getting the hint
  • ********
  • Posts: 6951
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2007, 04:20:18 PM »

Creationists are fucking retarded. All of them. Retarded. Anyone who believes that shit needs a bullet.

The End.

Do you mena a bullet like the one God created on the 5th day?
Logged
"A memory is anything that happens and does not completely unhappen" - Edward de Bono.

"Edward de Bono did more drugs than Elvis" - Fritz

Thaluikhain

  • All too visible
  • *
  • Posts: 20339
Re: Creationists vs Darwinians
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2007, 04:24:41 PM »

You forgot that you wouldn't need to bother with giving your woman one of those overrated pesky orgasms anymore, because she'll be so cut up she'll look just like a Barbie doll, for your pleasure only.

Indeed.  All Muslims are exactly the same.


I'm all for teaching kids christian values...though people who tend to go on about christian values tend to be suspicious, IMHO.  I guess it's because the only time religion comes up is over something controversial.  You don't hear people cry "I pay my taxes and help old ladies across the street for I am a Christian", I mean.

Oh...Creationism...that's just crap, though.  Likewise ID.  If you pay attention, the Church of the FSM actually makes somewhat more sense...in that they say "and anything which makes it look like it's not true is good playing a trick on you".  Oh, and it's new, doesn't haev any writings from yonks ago based on common assumptions back then taken as holy writ.
Logged
Pages: 1 [2] 3 4 ... 20