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[Dilan]

Peter Costello is a fine Liberal and a great man.  He'd have my vote any day.

I can't tell if you're being serious =]


I don't quite mind some of what he has to say/do, but honestly don't feel he could deal with the power. It'd be Nero all over again, minus his controlling mother and incestuous tendencies.

[Pertinax]

I can't tell if you're being serious =]


I don't quite mind some of what he has to say/do, but honestly don't feel he could deal with the power. It'd be Nero all over again, minus his controlling mother and incestuous tendencies.

Of course I'm being serious, newbie. PC is a great man. For evidence of this please refer yourself to his maiden speech to Parliament.

http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/firstspeech.asp?id=CT4

You should be bothered to read this but here is my favorite bit...

I think that there are still important issues that divide this House — born of different priorities, different goals and ultimately different ideas. I do not underestimate the importance of ideas in political debate. Ideas are our engine room. They set the goals to which our legislation and administration are directed. Our ideas, our goals, are the directional guides in our approach to the day to day details of legislation and administration. Without that directional impulse we run the risk of being overwhelmed by immediate detail and urgency, which assumes a life of its own, but leads us nowhere.

But in making the observation about the importance of ideas, I should sound an important caveat. At the end of the day it is people: parents, children, students, employees, young people and the old — it is the unique individual — that are more important even than ideas. Much misery has been visited on individuals down through the years in the name of an idea or an ideology. We should not forget that people are the end which we serve. Politics is not an end in itself. We are not here to serve ideas. Our task is much greater and infinitely more important than that.

Educate yourself, new person, don't just slavishly follow the crowd.

[Dilan]

It's nothing to do with following the crowd.

Sure, his ideas are good. I also like his stance on many issues, just well, the most important thing about being a Prime Minister is the ability to lead right? From what I've seen, I'm not quite sure he'll cope.

Mind you, a lot of the information that I have received is filtered in some way.

He'll be better than Howard anywho  If Howard ever does give up his seat that is.

[Thaluikhain]

It'd be Nero all over again, minus his controlling mother and incestuous tendencies.

If I had been drinking anything at the time, I'd have just covered the monitor with it.

Seriously, what is it with some people and really stupid comparisons?  There should be a variant of Godwin's Law for this sort of thing.

[Dilan]

If I had been drinking anything at the time, I'd have just covered the monitor with it.

Seriously, what is it with some people and really stupid comparisons?  There should be a variant of Godwin's Law for this sort of thing.

It was the first thing that popped into my mind =D.
I rather hope it got my point across, though I'm thinking I just made myself seem even more like a fool ^_^

Costello hasn't quite converted me yet.

[Pertinax]

It's nothing to do with following the crowd.

Sure, his ideas are good. I also like his stance on many issues, just well, the most important thing about being a Prime Minister is the ability to lead right? From what I've seen, I'm not quite sure he'll cope.

He'd cope fine.

Mind you, a lot of the information that I have received is filtered in some way.

No shit.

He'll be better than Howard anywho

No doubt. JWH and his ilk are far too socially conservative for any free thinking liberal.

  If Howard ever does give up his seat that is.

He may not have a choice.

[Thaluikhain]

It was the first thing that popped into my mind =D.
I rather hope it got my point across, though I'm thinking I just made myself seem even more like a fool ^_^

It did, yes.  Posting the first thing that pops into your head isn't always a good idea.

[Bryce!]

I think Kisschasy got the right Idea in there video clip of  'Opinions Wont Keep You Warm At Night'. For those of you who haven't seen it, It is about George Bush and Tony Blair going on a date and John Howard tagging along like a little 'brother'. I reccomend that you see it as it portrays the relationship between John Howard and George Bush.

[Pertinax]

I think Kisschasy got the right Idea in there video clip of  'Opinions Wont Keep You Warm At Night'. For those of you who haven't seen it, It is about George Bush and Tony Blair going on a date and John Howard tagging along like a little 'brother'. I reccomend that you see it as it portrays the relationship between John Howard and George Bush.

Well thank you for that recommendation cockspanker. Oh, and welcome to the forum. Its clear with insightful and witty contributions of this nature to make, you will fit right in with the rest of the fucktards in here.  Tell me, are you 15 or 16?  Do you really understand the first thing about the realities of global politics or are you just another sheep wandering along with the rest of the unthinking flock?  Oooh Kisschasy think JWH is like that and therefore so do I. Grow up you fucking retard.

[Thaluikhain]

Cheers, you've saved me the trouble of pointing that out myself.

[Bryce!]

Well thank you for that recommendation cockspanker. Oh, and welcome to the forum. Its clear with insightful and witty contributions of this nature to make, you will fit right in with the rest of the fucktards in here.  Tell me, are you 15 or 16?  Do you really understand the first thing about the realities of global politics or are you just another sheep wandering along with the rest of the unthinking flock?  Oooh Kisschasy think JWH is like that and therefore so do I. Grow up you fucking retard.

Im actually 14. Also just because I may have a different opinion to you doesnt mean that what I say doesn't matter.
How old are you? A 40 year old guy who has no life other than yelling at teenagers?

[Pertinax]

Im actually 14.

Well I never would have guessed.

Also just because I may have a different opinion to you doesnt mean that what I say doesn't matter.

Actually, it does matter. You see, you're a kid. You might think you're an enlightened soul but you really don't know anything about politics nor could you hope to grasp the complexities of international relations. So, the only way you could have formed the patently uninformed opinion you have is to have adopted it wholely from some other, possibly equally uninformed source, like a song recorded by a band of questionable quality, or heaven forbid, your parents. 

How about you pull your head out of your arse and have a look at the history of the relationship between the US and Australia. Consider our position with regards to the many treaties and agreements we have in place with them and then form an opinion.  Don't just run off with some half cocked idea because you saw it humourously portrayed on a music video. Similarly, don't regurgitate it in here when its clear that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

How old are you? A 40 year old guy who has no life other than yelling at teenagers?

I'm 38. I have had a far fuller life, already, than you can hope to have with so little capacity to think. I own a substantial business which employs about 80 teenagers and I don't yell at them at all. But then, they aren't as thick as you.

[Thaluikhain]

Actually, it does matter. You see, you're a kid. You might think you're an enlightened soul but you really don't know anything about politics nor could you hope to grasp the complexities of international relations.

Er, are you saying that is be cause he is 14, or because he happens to be a stupid 14 year old or something?

If it's the former, aren't you wasting your time with this:

How about you pull your head out of your arse and have a look at the history of the relationship between the US and Australia. Consider our position with regards to the many treaties and agreements we have in place with them and then form an opinion. 

[Nick 2]

Actually, it does matter. You see, you're a kid. You might think you're an enlightened soul but you really don't know anything about politics nor could you hope to grasp the complexities of international relations. So, the only way you could have formed the patently uninformed opinion you have is to have adopted it wholely from some other, possibly equally uninformed source, like a song recorded by a band of questionable quality, or heaven forbid, your parents. 

How about you pull your head out of your arse and have a look at the history of the relationship between the US and Australia. Consider our position with regards to the many treaties and agreements we have in place with them and then form an opinion.  Don't just run off with some half cocked idea because you saw it humourously portrayed on a music video. Similarly, don't regurgitate it in here when its clear that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
I'm 38. I have had a far fuller life, already, than you can hope to have with so little capacity to think. I own a substantial business which employs about 80 teenagers and I don't yell at them at all. But then, they aren't as thick as you.

I love you.

[rebmA]

Well I never would have guessed.
 Actually, it does matter. You see, you're a kid. You might think you're an enlightened soul but you really don't know anything about politics nor could you hope to grasp the complexities of international relations. So, the only way you could have formed the patently uninformed opinion you have is to have adopted it wholely from some other, possibly equally uninformed source, like a song recorded by a band of questionable quality, or heaven forbid, your parents. 

How about you pull your head out of your arse and have a look at the history of the relationship between the US and Australia. Consider our position with regards to the many treaties and agreements we have in place with them and then form an opinion.  Don't just run off with some half cocked idea because you saw it humourously portrayed on a music video. Similarly, don't regurgitate it in here when its clear that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.
I'm 38. I have had a far fuller life, already, than you can hope to have with so little capacity to think. I own a substantial business which employs about 80 teenagers and I don't yell at them at all. But then, they aren't as thick as you.

Ok guys, calm down a little! Just because someone who is younger than you has an opinion that you don't necessarily agree with, doesn't mean that he doesn't have the right to express himself. Besides which, NO ONE should have to be insulted simply because they're expressing their point of view. Maybe just be a little more respectful towards others?